There is no doubt that the praying person is in a state of communing with his Lord, so if a woman recites the tasbih with Him, it is difficult for him to have a natural, imaginary inclination toward her. With clapping, he is not safe from it, so what about speech? The knowledgeable person here is with what he considers to be right in communing with Him. Either he communes with Him with his mind or with himself and his nature, and it is according to his strength. He was healthy and strong, so he did not care what the conversation took place, so men and women were equal to him, and he knew that his soul had a remnant of itself in it, and that it had an illness that separated his mind from his nature until he was cleansed. This is how the people of God look at their souls .