They differed regarding these etiquettes regarding facing the Qiblah when defecating or urinating and turning away from it, so they were in three schools of thought. Some say that it is not permissible to face the Qiblah when defecating or urinating at all in any place, and some say that it is absolutely permissible to do so, and I say that abstaining from that is better and better. And some say that it is absolutely permissible. This is permissible in built-up areas, but it is not permissible in deserts. Every speaker has an argument from a report on which he relies. Sharia scholars have mentioned this in their books .