We do not say by the center, but rather we say by the end of the pillars, and that the greater attracts the smaller, and that is why we see steam and fire seeking the height, and stone and the like seeking the lower, so the directions differed, and that is in keeping with the two, I mean the seeker of the height and the lower, for the one who says the center says that it is a reasonable and precise matter sought by the pillars, even if not the dirt. Water would have circulated through it, and if it had not been for water, air would have circulated through it, and if it had not been for air, fire would have circulated through it. And if it were as he said, we would see the vapor seeking the lower, and sense testifies otherwise. We have explained this chapter in the book of the Center for us, and it is a nice part, so if we mention it in some of our books, we only present it in terms of an example of a point. From the area from which the circumference is created, because we have in